{"id":231499,"date":"2022-04-15T13:45:33","date_gmt":"2022-04-15T13:45:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/aptuscapitaladvisors.com\/?p=231499"},"modified":"2023-04-25T17:30:28","modified_gmt":"2023-04-25T17:30:28","slug":"its-all-the-same-only-the-rates-have-changed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aptuscapitaladvisors.com\/its-all-the-same-only-the-rates-have-changed\/","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s All the Same, Only the Rates Have Changed"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Flashing back a year, when bonds felt a bit more alive than dead. Originally posted <a href=\"https:\/\/aptuscapitaladvisors.com\/the-impact-of-rising-rates\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">in our Content Hub last March<\/a> but the concepts remain important&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h5><strong>Rates Are Moving<\/strong><\/h5>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Interest rates \u2013 just look at what the yield (the interest rate) of 10-year government bonds has done recently.\u00a0 The arrow is pointing to the start of 2021, starting below 1% and spiking over 1.5%.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-230257\" src=\"https:\/\/aptuscapitaladvisors.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Rates.Q12021-2-1024x460.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"360\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Source: Bloomberg. Data as of 02.26.2021<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Bond prices and interest rates carry an inverse relationship.\u00a0 Meaning, when rates go up, bond prices go down. Take a look at the table below showing total return of three types of bonds: Corporate bonds (LQD), the aggregate bond market (AGG), and long-term treasury bonds (TLT) have struggled year to date.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-230255\" src=\"https:\/\/aptuscapitaladvisors.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/Bonds.Q12021-1024x144.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"112\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Source: Bloomberg<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Bonds rely on these simple things to generate returns:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Yield \u2013 the interest a bond pays.<\/li>\n<li>Interest rates falling \u2013 this lifts the market price of a bond<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Yes, we\u2019re ignoring credit here, but want to make a point.\u00a0 Both #1 and #2 seemingly offer little to be excited about. Despite the recent rise in rates, we are still looking at historically low rates across the board.\u00a0 This translates to minimal yield on bonds. Given that, the potential positive contribution of rates dropping lower to bond prices is not all that great.<\/p>\n<p>Anybody that knows us has heard us screaming about this environment.\u00a0 The drag of traditional bonds on investors\u2019 portfolios is real.\u00a0 We said it throughout 2020, we thought 2021 was shaping up to be negative return year for the AGG.<\/p>\n<p>There is a chance that this rise in rates is just getting started.\u00a0 Knowing that, we are considering the current and potential impact on stocks.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h5><strong>Growth vs Value Stocks<\/strong><\/h5>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We still see the path of least resistance being up for stocks, with two key drivers:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The amount of monetary and fiscal stimulus in the markets could act as a buoy for the equity markets.<\/li>\n<li>Relative opportunity set is still heavily skewed towards stocks. If the 10-year yield gets high enough, this point may change, but until then, the best-looking option for dry powder is still the equity markets.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>We do believe growth stocks will be impacted by rising rates differently.\u00a0 Why?<\/p>\n<p>The stock price of a company is simply the value of future cash flows discounted using some rate.\u00a0 Think about the math of that\u2026a series of cash flows that extends way out into the future (the numerators), divided by an interest rate (the denominator), is a simple formula for discounting future cash flows back to today to give us a price.<\/p>\n<p>For simplicity and to hammer home the next point \u2013 let us take one future cash flow of $100 coming to us in 10 years, and discount it back to today.\u00a0 Let us do this twice\u2026first using 0.50% as our denominator, and secondly using 5.00%.<\/p>\n<p>Using 0.50%, today\u2019s value of that future cash flow is roughly $95.13.<\/p>\n<p>Using 5.0%, today\u2019s value would be roughly $61.39.<\/p>\n<p>Hopefully, our point is jumping out at you. <strong><em>The rate used to discount these cash flows is incredibly important.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The lower the discount rate, the higher the value attributed TODAY to future cash flows of TOMORROW \u2013 and vice versa.<\/p>\n<p>Considering that arithmetic again, think about the market we have been in.\u00a0 It has been dominated by growth stocks. These are stocks that trade at premium valuations. Some have fast-growing business that are expected to produce more and more income.\u00a0 Some have really cool concepts with no income at all (see our <a href=\"https:\/\/aptuscapitaladvisors.com\/greg-odens-everywhere\/\">Greg Oden post<\/a>).\u00a0 Either way, the market has valued future cash flows for these names at insanely low rates (some may say artificially low) which has translated to high valuations.<\/p>\n<p>Considering that arithmetic again, think about value stocks in the market we have had.\u00a0 They have been demolished by growth stocks to a point that value investors can look pretty foolish not to jump on the bandwagon of these high-flying companies.<\/p>\n<p>Rising rates should impact growth more negatively than value.\u00a0 We are seeing that play out as the QQQ\u2019s are lagging the SPY in recent months.\u00a0 In addition, we\u2019ve seen a few more \u2018growthy\u2019 names come out with incredible earnings reports that the market has not treated favorably.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h5><strong>What We Are Watching<\/strong><\/h5>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Rising rates are a concern as they could rise to a point that impacts markets everywhere.<\/p>\n<p>The 10-year US Treasury Note&#8217;s recent run has a component of rising inflation expectations. The Fed has said they would let inflation run a little hot, but it\u2019s not something they want to get out of hand.\u00a0 Remember, their mandates are a) low unemployment and b) low inflation.<\/p>\n<p>We are paying close attention to the difference between the 10-year and 2-year Treasuries\u2019 yield.\u00a0 The Fed is fully in control of the short end (the 2 year) now, and they are pegged about as low as they can go. <em>The market<\/em> is controlling the 10-year more and more, and you see what it\u2019s doing.<\/p>\n<p>The difference in yield, and rising inflation, could lead to the Fed losing control to the market. If markets begin to lift the short end of the curve (2 year), it could be the catalyst for the Fed to tighten (raise rates).\u00a0 Equity markets may not love that.<\/p>\n<p>Will it happen\u2026who knows, but we are paying attention. Either way, we still don\u2019t want to own bonds and will take our over-allocation to stocks with a nice dose of long volatility for protection.<\/p>\n<p>As always, thank you for your trust.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Disclosures<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Past performance is not indicative of future results. This material is not financial advice or an offer to sell any product. The information contained herein should not be considered a recommendation to purchase or sell any particular security. Forward-looking statements cannot be guaranteed.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>This commentary offers generalized research, not personalized investment advice. It is for informational purposes only and does not constitute a complete description of our investment services or performance. Nothing in this commentary should be interpreted to state or imply that past results are an indication of future investment returns. All investments involve risk and unless otherwise stated, are not guaranteed. Be sure to consult with an investment &amp; tax professional before implementing any investment strategy. Investing involves risk. Principal loss is possible.<\/em><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Advisory services are offered through Aptus Capital Advisors, LLC, a Registered Investment Adviser registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Registration does not imply a certain level or skill or training. More information about the advisor, its investment strategies and objectives, is included in the firm\u2019s Form ADV Part 2, which can be obtained, at no charge, by calling (251) 517-7198. Aptus Capital Advisors, LLC is headquartered in Fairhope, Alabama. ACA-2204-17.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Flashing back a year, when bonds felt a bit more alive than dead. Originally posted in our Content Hub last March but the concepts remain important&#8230; &nbsp; &nbsp; Rates Are Moving &nbsp; Interest rates \u2013 just look at what the yield (the interest rate) of 10-year government bonds has done recently.\u00a0 The arrow is pointing [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","content-type":"","inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[20,128,130],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-231499","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blog","category-bonds","category-macro-updates"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>It&#039;s All the Same, Only the Rates Have Changed - Aptus Capital Advisors<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/aptuscapitaladvisors.com\/its-all-the-same-only-the-rates-have-changed\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"It&#039;s All the Same, Only the Rates Have Changed - Aptus Capital Advisors\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Flashing back a year, when bonds felt a bit more alive than dead. 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